Posts by THE GLADIATOR

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The 1914 generation is still going strong 100 years later - 2014 study article.

by THE GLADIATOR in

january 2014 watchtower study article.

let your kingdom comebut when?.

this generation will not pass away.

THE GLADIATOR

When I was a Jehovah's Witnesses, spirituality was a word much used by the Watchtower Society. They had built an organization based on the invisible return of Christ in 1914. This event led to invisible fulfilment of prophecy upon a spiritual nation, living in an invisible spiritual paradise. The rewards that the members were so proud of could only be seen with invisible eyes of faith. It occurred to me that I was involved in a religion that, despite its appearance of being a spiritual organization, was material in its outlook. Although believing in a spiritual world, members were told they had no soul, just a physical body, and that was all they were ever going to have. They could only look forward to living forever as humans. Out of all the people that had ever lived on earth, only 144,000 were destined for heaven.

There was much speculation about what the new world would be like. This prize had to be earned through physical effort, in the form of a strict regime of canvassing and literature selling. The Society would boast about how many hundreds of millions of magazines and books they had produced. Kingdom Hall meetings did not involve silent meditation or group contemplation. Instead, they were comprised of lectures and question-and-answer programmes. All answers were pre-supplied in printed literature. There was no room for personal insight or intuition. There were no mysteries or unanswered questions. Answers to all questions could be found in indexed Watchtower Society volumes.

As the years passed, answers and rules constantly changed. The Society’s approach was more like that of a simplistic law school than that of a spiritual movement. The main requirement for continued membership was unquestioning obedience to their authority. Acceptance of its explanations and dictates was deemed to be obedience to Jehovah God. Nothing has changed in the years since I left this corrupt organization. In order to keep their status as a charity they stopped charging for literature many years ago. It is my belief, that this will utimately be their undoing.

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the god of bible is a god of love?

by trackregister99 in

i readthe bibleentirely and i study in the past with jw, but i have many questions and doubts about god.

(sorry for my english).

is god a god of love?

THE GLADIATOR

The snag is, that according to the Bible writers Jesus is the image of his father. ‘The father and I are one.’ ‘He who has seen me has seen the father.’ And so on. If we discount all the statements that he Bible credits to Jesus, we might as well burn the ancient book and stick to factual reading.

Filling our brain with a Dose-of-Dawkings is a better recipe for mental health.

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The 1914 generation is still going strong 100 years later - 2014 study article.

by THE GLADIATOR in

january 2014 watchtower study article.

let your kingdom comebut when?.

this generation will not pass away.

THE GLADIATOR

Well, I am blown away by your contributions to this ‘Generation thread’. Although it’s a subject that has been reviewed before, it goes to the heart of the framework that the Watchtower Society has based the reason for its existence upon.

The Watchtower Society claim to be Jehovah’s modern day prophet. Has it delivered or is it a false prophet? People still caught up in the Watchtower Society's grip will benefit from all your research and comments. Thank you again.

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Why does Organic Chemistry prove God's exists?

by KateWild in

so bring it on, and lay the evidence on me, kate (but perhaps you should start a new thread).-adam.

it does not prove god exists, there is no substantial evidence god is real.

if one is a self labeled atheist, one has no desire to see gods fingerprints in organic chemistry.

THE GLADIATOR

Well done adamah We could be on to something here.

We humans have struggled along on our own for too long.

Perhaps we need a - Get Gods Back to Work Campaign.

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Why does Organic Chemistry prove God's exists?

by KateWild in

so bring it on, and lay the evidence on me, kate (but perhaps you should start a new thread).-adam.

it does not prove god exists, there is no substantial evidence god is real.

if one is a self labeled atheist, one has no desire to see gods fingerprints in organic chemistry.

THE GLADIATOR

Why are you believers so hung-up on one God? If you are going to do the God thing, why not have at least 20 Gods and Goddesses? Gods and Goddesses work much harder for you when they have to compete to stay on the list.

Nothing sharpens their performance more than the threat of redundancy. They have to earn their keep like anyone else. It’s not as though they’re busy creating the world any more. They can’t just swan around in heaven all day eating ambrosia and passing judgment on hard working people. In my day Caesar was never so lenient. Lazy Gods got thrown to the lions!

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The 1914 generation is still going strong 100 years later - 2014 study article.

by THE GLADIATOR in

january 2014 watchtower study article.

let your kingdom comebut when?.

this generation will not pass away.

THE GLADIATOR

Fisherman What do you think is the move (change). How can GC be defined and keep 'this generation"

The Watchtower Society missed their chance to wriggle out of their failed claims back in 1995. During that century the faithful men of old had not returned physically as promised. The promised return of Jesus to earth had been explained away as an invisible return that they had failed to notice. It was now claimed that many of the promises regarding Israel had been fulfilled on the Witnesses in a spiritual or pictorial way. The promised paradise was, for now, a spiritual paradise. It would have only been one step more for the Society to declare that Armageddon was to be fought in a spiritual realm and would be one more invisible fulfilment not seen by the membership. In other words invisible, unseen, imagined. The Watchtower Society could have written another book explaining that Armageddon had already taken place invisibly but they had missed this event too, but could explain it all, using that wonderful tool of hindsight. Perhaps giving the due apology for having encouraged some of the older members to spend their lives speculating about how many days or years make up a generation. Instead they said:

Eager to see the end of this evil system, Jehovah’s people have at times speculated about the time when the ‘great tribulation’ would break out, even tying this to calculations of what is the lifetime of a generation since 1914. However we ‘bring a heart of wisdom in.’ Not by speculating about how many days or years make up a generation, but by thinking about how we ‘count our days’ in bringing joyful praise to Jehovah. (Psalm 90:12) Rather than provide a rule for measuring time, the term ‘generation’ as used by Jesus refers principally to contemporary people of a certain historic period, with their identifying characteristics. Is anything to be gained, then, by looking for dates or by speculating about the literal lifetime of a ‘generation’? Far from it! Therefore, in the final fulfilment of Jesus’ prophecy today, ‘this generation’ apparently refers to the people of the earth who see the sign of Christ’s presence but fail to mend their ways. Does our more precise viewpoint on ‘this Generation’ mean that Armageddon is further away than we had thought? Not at all! The Watchtower 1 November 1995 - pages 17-20

Not at all! What a whopping great pork pie.

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Why does Organic Chemistry prove God's exists?

by KateWild in

so bring it on, and lay the evidence on me, kate (but perhaps you should start a new thread).-adam.

it does not prove god exists, there is no substantial evidence god is real.

if one is a self labeled atheist, one has no desire to see gods fingerprints in organic chemistry.

THE GLADIATOR

KateWild The Greeks and Romans including the Caesars believed they had more that 300 gods and goddesses. It turned out they had imagined them all.

Now a mere gladiator can not be smarter than Caesar, as a slave can not be greater than his master.

So logically, we must conclude that there are no gods only gladiators. Hope this helps you in your search for the Holy Grail.

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What are you doing on Christmas day?

by Jen1 in

jw
friends

any one out there doing field service?

i have not gone out on that day in years.

and have no intention of ever doing that again.

THE GLADIATOR

Going to an indian restaurant at lunchtime with a few friends, then back to my place for further refreshment.

It's becoming a popular way to spend Xmas lunch here in the UK.

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Why hasn`t / doesn`t the "TRUE GOD" clarify his " GODSHIP" between the JEWS , the CHRISTIANS and the MUSLIMS.

by smiddy in

it has been about 2000 years since jesus walked the earth and has been hailed as the son of god by christians .. the jews refuse to acknowledge jesus as the son of god.. the muslims recognise jesus as only a prophet .. their are billions of christians earth wide.

their are at least a billion muslims world wide.

i`m sorry i dont know how many jews their are world wide ( please add the 6 million who died in concentration camps ).

THE GLADIATOR

Perry "You appear trapped in an illogical mental prison."

Perry when it comes to being trapped in an illogical mental prison, you're a lifer.

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The 1914 generation is still going strong 100 years later - 2014 study article.

by THE GLADIATOR in

january 2014 watchtower study article.

let your kingdom comebut when?.

this generation will not pass away.

THE GLADIATOR

Finkelstein The Jehovah's Witnesses is one bat shit crazy religion, has been from the very start.

So true, but can you name a successful religion that is not bat-shit crazy?